EDITORIAL: No Way Out vs The Chronic – Who Wins??
September 4, 2012 in Editorial
Back in the grand year of 1997 (which was the epitome of bittersweet), one of (if not THE) greatest rappers of all time was abruptly taken away from us on that now infamous L.A. strip. The whole Hip Hop community was devastated and stunned, no matter what horse they were riding on during the East/West conflict, and wondered where the game was going without arguably its brightest star of the moment no longer here. Another question many were whispering was W.W.P.D. (What Would Puffy Do)?? Riding his highest ever as an exec and label owner, most would figure that losing the main cog in his well-oiled machine would prove to be damaging to his brand, not to mention the emotional trauma such a tragedy can cause to a person. But Puff, as he has over the years time and time again, put on his finest of linens and danced his way through the adversity, all the while creating one of the most undervalued albums of all time in his opus, No Way Out, and reaching levels of success he hadn’t see up until that point.
Now rewind a little further back to 1992. Fresh off of splitting with his group N.W.A.(you may have heard of them) amid financial disagreements, the greatness that is otherwise known as Dr. Dre formed a new business relationship with former bodyguard and tough guy Suge Knight to create Death Row Records, with his quasi-solo debut in The Chronic serving as a deafening battle cry for the West’s crusade for worldwide domination, in the rap game at least. With a slew of hit singles and a sonic cohesiveness that arguably has yet to be rivaled, in most circles The Chronic ranks as a unanimous Top 15 (at worst) album in the history of our still growing culture and has served as the golden standard for all West Coast albums ever since.
Now, lets get back to the present. It is currently September 2012, 15 years and 20 years after the release of both projects respectively, and after many years for 20/20 hindsight to kick in, a question that would once come off as a blatant joke to most is now a viable question: Is No Way Out actually, dare I say, BETTER than The Chronic?? The album that REALLY put the West on the top for that mean early-mid 90′s winning streak, the album that largely introduced the omnipresent artist formerly known as Snoop Doggy Dogg, the album that embodied the mentality of L.A. residents after the cultural shockwave known as the L.A. Riots??? Again, to some the mere thought of this comparison would conjure disgust in the most reasonable of Hip Hop purists, who initially labeled Puff’s debut as The Devils Spawn..and that’s putting it in a kind way.
But the more I’ve though about it, the more I’ve started to lean to the side of white (linens/suits/etc). While The Chronic showcased the pure nihilism of urban Los Angeles amid police brutality (“The Day The Ni**az Took Over”), gang wars, and poverty, No Way Out is more known for its dark ambiance, with the always superficial Puff giving a TRUE glimpse of the inner-workings within his soul (“If I Should Die Tonight”, “Do You Know”, “Pain”), which he has rarely done ever since. With both albums being a compilation of sorts, I’ll give the nod to better supporting actors to the Bad Boy team, with Mase, The Lox, Lil Kim, and The Ghost Of Christopher Wallace trumping Snoop and the Death Row bench players.
While Dre’s production on The Chronic was more Tour De Force, the Bad Boy’s Hit Men took the production game to another level in 1997, concocting soundbeds similar to movie scores, with peaks and valleys to further showcase the various emotions working on the psyche of Sean Combs and the fam. And the singles??? “All About The Benjamins”, “Cant Nobody Hold Me Down”, “Victory”, “Been Around The World”, and the ubiquitous SMASH “I’ll Be Missing You”?? The Dre and Snoop combo is always a win, but I’ll probably give that lineup the edge against “G Thang”, “Dre Day” and “Let Me Ride”, by a reasonable margin as well.
Last but not least, while Dre’s flow was way more polished, we never saw Puff as a rapper in the 1st place so just the idea of him putting (err..reciting) competent rhymes together and the emotions behind the project gave him a little wiggle room in that department.
So, what do YOU guys think? The Chronic or No Way Out?? Let the debates begin and send all hate-mail to @preezydakid











The Chronic changed the game of Hip-Hop as far as production. There is no comparison on that level. All About The Benjamins is without a doubt one of the most incredible singles ever but let’s be for real.
it made its impact and is one of the best produced albums,but the beat by beat,i dont think it stacks up to No Way Out after having a lengthy amount of time to see both albums age..The Chronic wins in impact and hype,but No Way Out is damn near on par with it,no question.
No way. You can’t separate impact. Hype is because the product is that good. The Chronic changed the way albums are produced, No Way Out didn’t. The Chronic was a moment in time while No Way Out is a good album. Ready To Die or Life After Death are better than No Way Out and neither of them are The Chronic.
An interesting match-up.
‘Victory’ is undoubtedly one of the biggest sounding rap songs of all time. It is epic, it really does sound like a movie. ‘…Benjamins’ still sounds so dynamic 15 years later – I think Big Pun said it best with that ‘Benjamins beat’ reference.
However, when recalling the feeling I get when listening to, say ‘Stranded on Death Row’ which mixes super smooth production, knocking drums, and a group of young, hungry lyricists killing the delusional public opinion that ‘West coast / gangsta rappers can’t spit’, I come to the conclusion that for me ‘The Chronic’ has it, however much I agree that ‘No Way Out’ is underrated.
Here are a few other album match-ups that I find always spark a good debate, I’d be interested to hear what you guys think:
‘The Chronic’ vs. ‘Life After Death’, that’s a tough one.
‘Liquid Swords’ vs. ‘Cuban Linx’: I can’t call it.
‘…Nation of Millions’ vs. ‘…Black Planet’: Word to Dallas Penn, ‘Black Planet’ in my book.
Lee TNBM
I love the Chronic, but nWo is the better album, overall. Song for song, it was just insane the level of talent on that project. Point blank, lets just ignore Puff & Dre– they are the worst rappers on their own projects, and any argument otherwise is asinine. Everyone can admit that Chronic was a legit game-changer– its non-debatable nor is it something we can ignore. No Way Out, for all its success, was more of an extension of Life After Death (Itself a game-changer) that was designed to satisfy the ego of Sean Combs and expose his artists to a larger audience.
All that being said…
No Way Out is the better album that the Chronic, strictly from a listeners standpoint. Forget the singles– All About the Benjamin’s/I’ll Be Missing You/Been Around The World & Dre Day/Nuttin But a G Thang/Let Me Ride wash each other out. The true measure of both these albums lie in their album cuts, and to honest, nWo washes Chronic. Just look at this lineup:
Young Gs Ft. Camel & Big
Victory Ft. Big
I Love You Baby Ft. Black Rob
Is this The End Ft. Twista
Senorita ft. Jennifer Lopez
Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down
Even if you took the best album cuts off the Chronic, I just don’t think they match the level of greatness exhibited in Young Gs and Victory alone! none of this is to take away from Lady of Rage on Stranded, Snoop on Bitches Aint Shit, and The Day Niggaz Took Over… I’m just saying those songs above absolutely run circles around the meat of Chronic. Plus, look at how many legit star turns occured due to nWo? Mase, Carl Thomas (Pain), Black Rob (I Love You Baby), J. Lo, etc ALL went on to platinum careers based of this one album. Has anyone heard from Rage or RBX lately?
Note: Lets consider Lox & Dogg Pound a wash.
Anyway, The Chronic is one of the greatest albums (any genre) of all time; It really is. I just think that, much like the aging Jansport set still trolling flea markets for copies of The Purple Tape while listening to their first run illmatic cd, the CD itself is still dated. Most people now have never actually heard of the Chronic, nor do they have the fond memories those of us moving in our 30s have of listening to his project.
So, just like It Was Written has, over time, finally been recognized as the superior album to Illmatic without negatively affecting the legacy or memory of Illmatic, so too can people acknowledge No Way Out as the premier event album and superior product to the (now) 20 year Chronic.
JihaD
“holy moly” i exclaimed when i saw some1 tweet this.. the chronic was a game changing, classic, near flawless album. the puffy joint was a release that most “heads” hated on..
but preezy made a great argument. great pontification. salute.
but, i still will always ride with the chronic. first of all.. the chronic is MUSICALLY a masterpiece. the replays of funked out oldies like leon haywood, george clinton etc were the first of their kind. nobody did it like dre. also, the introduction of snoop dogg and the chemistry of the two was nearly flawless. EVERY SINGLE SONG on the chronic is great. even tho the camp had lesser known role players..they did exactly what they were sposed to do and they did it great.
the puffy album came out at a time when real “heads” hated the whole shiny suit movement. i, personally, bought this album. and i actually enjoyed some of it. when “all about the benjamins” came out i loved it. most “heads” hated it. but that quickly changed as music quickly went down south soon after this project and a song like benjamins would come on in the club and everyone would rejoice cuz u could play it in a club against down south joints… lol. people thought puffy was living off of bigs essence on this album, lotta ppl got mad at puff for this album. like, u gonna just start rapping after yer man dies? that was cold in a lotta ppls eyes. his dedication to big was always a fluff piece to me. most of the album is pretty decent by TODAYS standards. but, back then? nahhh.
lets not rewrite history mr preezy. i appreciate yer argument. great points but i was alive and well for both releases. the chronic is a top 10 album of all time. period. no way out? not even close
“When you diss Dre you diss yourself (motherfucker…)”
I think you know where I stand here…
Wait It Was Written is considered better than Illmatic? Sounds like I gotta write an article. Also the album cuts of The Chronic bang on NWO. Pain, Senorita, and a few others are soft like bread. While I understand that was the point of the album lets be for real. Also Dre > Puff as rappers. While Puff has a few memorable bars overall Dre delivers his ghostwritten material much more efficiently.
Like Scrilla said No Way Out is not a top ten album of all time, while The Chronic is. Also the sequencing on The Chronic is legendary. That alone doesn’t get the credit it deserves.